Coming face-to-face with toxic leadership

My coworker and I waited for the elevator. We were heading back to work. I had helped proof a report for him and he thanked me by taking me to lunch. He was the finance guy, I was the comms guy. We didn’t work a lot together, but I was happy to help him.

He was a bit senior than me, but we had a great relationship. I teased him about being a “nuts and bolts numbers guy,” he called me the “fluffy word guy.” It helped that he originally came from New York and was a Mets fan. He was easy to tease.

We were still razzing each other when the elevator opened. Our boss’ boss was already on and we nodded and said hello. I had done work for her plenty of times but she said nothing back and just kept looking down at her shoes.

After a few minutes, she finally asked my coworker a question about some finance-related meeting they were going to be attending later in the week. She spoke with him easily but did not address or acknowledge my presence. Even though their discussion had moved to lighter topics, including the traffic coming into work that morning and the weather forecast for the rest of the week, I couldn’t help but feel like I was an interloper, interrupting some deep confidential strategy session. 

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An old farmer who I worked with one summer as a college student had little time for arrogant and pretentious behavior and used to have a name for the leader’s actions. He used to call people like that pretenders and talked about how they were “putting on airs” — meaning someone who acts superior or behaves as if they are more important than others.

I thought about her this week. By contrast, another former boss celebrated a birthday this week and I was thinking about how she used to go out of her way for her team. She was several ladder steps above me, but she always found time for me. When I was laid off a few years ago, we hadn’t worked together in years, but she still called to check-up on me. 

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I can’t help but think about the strange contrasts between the two. The first executive couldn’t lower herself to acknowledge me and, in turn, I never felt much loyalty to the mission statement and goals she was trying to get the team to heed. The goals were full of merit, but in her hands, they felt hollow. She wasn’t the worst boss I ever had, but I always felt like she was in it for herself. By contrast, the second manager had a bigger title, more status so-to-speak, but she went out of her way to make you feel comfortable, and I, in turn, would’ve run through a brick wall for her. 

Workers face a lot of challenges in today’s workplace. A great manager doing the simple basic things can make a ton of difference.

Yes, lock pretense and status and arrogance in a closet where they belong and be the difference. 


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58 thoughts on “Coming face-to-face with toxic leadership

  1. Brian, I am reminded of a fire chief I once had to deal with during my career. She liked to micromanage and criticize every decision and every action that anyone made while on the scenes of emergencies. Aside from being promoted to fire chief, she had accomplished absolutely nothing else in life. I’m a very strong-willed, highly skilled, and adaptable woman who isn’t easily broken, yet under her leadership, I only lasted six months there. The constant undermining and lack of respect for the team’s expertise made the environment unbearable. It’s a stark reminder of how crucial competent and supportive leadership really is.

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    1. Yes, supportive leadership goes a long way. Similar to you, I’ve achieved amazing highs and lows thanks in part to the leaders around me. I like to think that the ones who trusted me, treated me with respect, gave fair, critical feedback at the right time, and stood up for me were rewarded with strong performances. It’s always a disappointment when you have a manager or leader that doesn’t fit. It’s such a let down. In the example you gave, good for you for making the break quickly and moving on!

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  2. A good leader (boss) makes all the difference. The only reason I ended up staying in an oil refinery for over seven years (my record) was because of Guy. He was the type of leader that inspired, included and encouraged. Yes it was an oil refinery out in the boonies but there were restaurants around; however, he always ate with us and created such a camaraderie.

    I now work with a few people that honestly? I am hoping things change because after my first full year, I am not overly impressed. I only have three more years to go (hopefully, even less) so I would prefer not to have to look once again…

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    1. Oh, I’m sorry to hear that Dale. Good luck in getting to three years. I’ve generally been lucky with my leaders, but I’ve had a couple doozies too. And you’re so right, they really do make the difference. I’ve had leaders I would run through walls for and then I’ve had leaders I wouldn’t trust with two cents. Kind of crazy.

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      1. Thank you, Brian. There have been some nicely memorable ones and some not even close to! They do make a difference. Oh, I’ve had those not-trustable ones, too. I think they are the worst.

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  3. Honey Brian, I too have experienced toxic leaders who should know better, but are full of themselves and your phrase “putting on airs” is one I heard so many times growing up. But I have also had some empathetic leaders who were human, cared about the people who worked for them, and were not useless BUTTholes. Yet, the BUTTholes taught me a very valuable lesson…not to be like them. 🤨👍🏼🤔

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    1. Yes, I’m with you Kym. I’ve tried to learn from both leaders, including what to mimic and what to pass up when I’ve been in leadership situations. The great ones have definitely made me grateful and appreciative. I like that you used the word “empathy” it’s a such a great leadership word and not focused on enough.

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  4. Emotional intelligence and interpersonal skills are so important, even more so for senior leaders. It sounds like a stark contrast indeed between the two examples you shared, Brian. I always think of the saying that people often remember how you made them feel more so than their words.

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  5. Yikes…you made an observation, Brian, about a behavior that will forever irk me to no end…the interactions in small groups when someone in a leadership position (especially) does not acknowledge each person around the table. I know there’s a need for brevity in meetings and they’re not chit-chat sessions, but it takes no time to be human – even if it’s just eye contact and a smile. Oy. 🙄

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    1. Oh, it’s such a huge thing. I had a meeting relatively recently with a bunch of new folks. I thought the meeting planner was going to introduce me, but it never happened. Finally, I spoke up to introduce myself. It turned out that others didn’t know each other as well. What a horrible interaction. Ugh. It’s such a huge, but small thing.Yes, it irks me too 🙂 🙂

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  6. Great post, Brian! I’ve left an otherwise good job due to a bad boss, and I’ve stayed when the pay wasn’t quite up to snuff because my boss was so amazing. Leadership makes all the difference!

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    1. Yes, it really does make a difference. And yes, I’ve done the same thing, left good jobs and stayed at ones that didn’t pay as well, all because of my boss. People really do leave jobs not because of the job, but because of the boss!!!

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  7. Bad managers seemed to be in play for me most of my working life, but I absolutely remember the good ones, and consider myself lucky for those years the only challenge was the work…not the lead worker.

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  8. What a phony boss, putting on airs! It’s so nice to have a boss like the other one you described. When I worked in PR for a real estate developer I once found myself in an elevator with the big boss, the owner. I was struggling with a large, heavy box and he glanced at me, but never said a word. We would watch him from our office window walking out at the end of the day to his Bentley with his secretary following behind carrying his briefcase.

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  9. I’ve had managers I’d do anything for and managers who I show respect to but really don’t feel it inside. I get it when you said you had no loyalty to the manager who ignored you.

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  10. Be the difference. Oh, this is so good, Brian. In fact, it was exactly what I needed to read today. I don’t know how you do that so often. Thank you for painting the two different pictures and the resulting effects. Such great storytelling, my friend!

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  11. A good reminder, and not only for bosses. I’ve bee so focussed at times on a question or discussion with someone that I just didn’t pay attention to someone else present. Later I felt bad recalling that I didn’t connect a bit with the friend, co-worker, or child.

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      1. this was at a U Haul location that had the trucks and a couple hundred storage units here in Vegas. The guy was retired military which I think has something to do with his behavior. I was older than him too. You never talk down to, at, through or otherwise disrespect your employees which includes yelling at them. I was asked to do things outside of my job description too… Byeeee! 👍🏻

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  12. Treat others how you would like to be treated. It doesn’t matter if it’s a senior executive, or a janitor. Finding time to say hello and acknowledge someone is a great way to show you care and build rapport.

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  13. As I see it there are two possibilities first – the not so nice boss did not hear you and was engrossed in her own problems. However it does seem quite insensitive that she should continue to ignore you when she had moved into the lighter conversations with the co-worker. She could at least have made eye contact and smiled at you. It doesn’t hurt! Kindness like that doesn’t cost anything. Secondly it seems she is rude, disrespectful and doesn’t understand that you cannot be this way anymore. That the moral of the team is a big factor in business success. It is not a top down boss servant relationship anymore Collaboration is the key to respectful workplace conditions and worker satisfaction and thus staff retention.

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    1. Oh, I didn’t expect a deep conversation. She’s the boss. I get that she was busy. I, at least, expect basic courtesy from others such as acknowledging others and certainly not excluding someone who’s on the same elevator with you. It was just awkward. The sad thing is that wasn’t the only time something like that to happen with her. She just wasn’t a great leader.

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