When I was in college, a friend of mine worked part time as an assistant at the local FM radio station. The job title sounded impressive, but in reality it left a lot to be desired. He was a glorified gopher who covered the front desk and ran for coffee. On the rare occasions he was let into the studio and asked to briefly cover for the DJ, making a restroom pit-stop, he was told not to touch anything.
The station was small potatoes. The power of its wattage and the number of listeners were nothing to write home about. For us students, stuck in the middle of nowhere, though, the station, was the only game in town.
To make matters worse, the station, in the days before streaming services, played a steady run of syrupy bubblegum pop music. For my friend, who lived outside New York, this was unacceptable. He was used to listening to a wide array of music genres and regularly taking the train to concerts to see some of the biggest bands of the day like The Rolling Stones, Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band, and Peter Gabriel. He couldn’t stand the round the clock playing of electronic dance music and pop. The mere mention of the Grateful Dead or up-and-coming alternative rock acts, outside of the Top 40, would send him into a tirade.

Um, let’s think this through!
Late one Friday night after the millionth playing of Madonna (Papa don’t preach) and Lionel Richie (Say you, Say me), he reached his limit. He came up with the brilliant idea to break into the studio and take over the station. His plan was to lure the DJ out of the studio and then lock himself inside and take over the airwaves, playing “real music” as he called it. He understood that he would get into trouble. However, he believed that once listeners came to his defense, he would be lauded for his taste in music.
I’m not sure how serious he was, but he sure put a lot of thought into his plan. Now smarter heads prevailed. Yes, yes, I convinced him that the station wasn’t worth the trouble, including getting kicked out of college. A large group of us, though, spent the rest of the night dreaming whimsically about what we would do if we were ever in charge.
Our list was long. We would play music we wanted to play. We would make the cost of used text books cheaper. We would run more buses on campus so that you didn’t freeze to death walking from one end of campus to the other. We would have cheap wings every night in the cafeteria, not just Monday and Tuesday. You know — important stuff!

Taking over the airwaves!
My friend calmed down and soon forgot about how close he came to getting into trouble. That’s my way of saying that I never got my chance to take over a radio station. But I recently achieved the next best thing. Yup, I got to take over the Sharing the Heart of The Matter podcast and turn the tables on my friends Vicki Atkinson and Wynne Leon and ask them about reaching their 100th episode milestone.
God help us all. God help anyone brave enough to listen. Me? Taking over a podcast? Uh-oh!
We talked about creativity and process and how they come up with each episode. But I got to the real fun. I got to grill them on all the tough questions that their inquiring listeners want to know. For example, I asked them to spill the beans about who their dream guest would be.
I suspected they’d mention the movie and shakers of the world. I thought maybe some of Hollywood’s finest like Meryl Streep or Scarlett Johansson. From the music world, maybe Taylor Swift or Jennifer Lopez. Vicki and Wynne love talking about writing. Naturally, I thought of Colleen Hoover of It Ends With Us fame. I also considered nonfiction writers like Malcolm Gladwell or Michelle Obama.
Of course, they both said they love talking shop with writers big and small. I put them under the hot lights. I even threatened some water torture. They still came back with regular everyday folks. I guess I need to work on my turning the table skills. My skills need some work.
In the meantime, check out the HOTM Podcast. Let Vicki and Wynne know in the comments who you suggest they interview next? We have to start a campaign to get Authors Brené Brown or Mel Robbins to come on their podcast. Who’s with me?
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- Episode 103: Turning the Tables with Brian Hannon on the Sharing the Heart of The Matter.
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papa don’t preach!!)) loved the podcast
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Ha, ha, love it. Meanwhile, it would have sent my college friend over the edge. It wasn’t edgy enough for him. Ha, ha.
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I dunno, Brian…I’d say you have a whole other career opportunity waiting for you…podcasting, radio DJ? Your bravery in wrangling us and asking great questions? Praise and commendations are in order! Medal of honor? Thanks for making this episode so much fun…and for revealing your college radio station memories (including endless plays of “Papa Don’t Preach”) I’d forgotten about that! 🤣🥰🤣
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I talk too fast, my brain is working faster than my mouth can keep up, I’m way off script. I can’t see this second career you mention, but hey, it was a blast hanging out with you two. I love how fearless you guys are about it. Inspires me to tread in new areas. Ha, ha.
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You do not talk too fast! You’re fabulous and encouraging. And tolerant, LOL! You’ve got a gift…just saying! 🥰
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Awww, now I’m speechless. Ha, ha. Thank you Vicki!
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I speak the truth! 🥰
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I love this! You are a good friend, Brian! You saved your friend in college — and you did us a solid by taking over the podcast. Thank you thank you thank you!
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Good friend is questionable. Crazy, oh, that’s a yes. Ha, ha. I’m not very good on the podcast, but I always love joining you guys. It’s always a ton of fun. The ten minutes of laugh beforehand is always fun. And then the show itself, is always a blast. I love how you’ve turned your site and the podcast into a thriving and growing community. An inspiration for other writers!!!
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Did you ever see the movie “Pirate Radio?”
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It’s funny you mentioned Pirate Radio. It’s one of those movies I’ve never seen. I’ve seen parts of it a couple of different times, but have never been able to watch it all in one sitting. I gotta go back and watch it now!!!!
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It can be an acquired taste.
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Reminds me very much of when I used to help out with Hospital radio back in the early 90s. Similar ideas never coming to fruition. We were rebels but just didn’t know how to rebel. Wonderful days. Great post 👍
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I love that line, “we were rebels, but just didn’t know how to rebel.” That was my friend to a T. Ha, ha.
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Congrats on taking over the podcast. I will definitely give it a listen. You reminded me of my son at UC Santa Barbara. He was given a radio program on their AM station from 3 – 6 a.m. My husband and I would set our alarm to listen. I’m pretty sure we were the only listeners. His program was a mix of eclectic music matched to poetry. He’d invite his poet girlfriend (now wife) into the studio and she’d read her poems. He’d gush on the air about how amazing she was. 😂
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Oh, that’s cool about your son. Did you record any of his shows. That’s definitely something to bring back for a birthday or event in the future. Ha, ha.
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Darn! I didn’t think about recording at 3 a.m.!
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Yea, I wouldn’t have thought of that either … until well after the fact! Ha ha. Anyway, you can say you knew the radio star before he became famous. Ha ha
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He’s given up radio dreams, although he and his wife still have dreams of being writers. In the meantime they have jobs to pay the expensive bills in the Bay Area, barely. We had to live stream his show on the computer because we couldn’t pick up AM airwaves in Santa Barbara.
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Great episode, Brian! You did try to nudge them toward Taylor Swift at one point. Congrats again to your Eagles!
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Oh, I just listened to it. Ugh. I’m much better behind the scenes. Too much exuberance if you ask me. I definitely have a voice and a face for print. Ha, ha. And yes, today is the parade for the Eagles. I was tempted to go, but work called me away. I guess it’s a good thing. I hear that it’s a zoo — packed crowds. And yes, I was not relaxing during the game until the clock ran out. I feared the worse. Ha, ha.
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That was a very exuberant intro, ha. But well done! Own it, man.
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Ha, ha, we recorded it before the Super Bowl. As an Eagles fan, maybe that’s where the exuberance and excitement was coming from. Ha, ha.
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Congratulations! Looking forward to listening!!!
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😎😎😎😎😎
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I enjoyed the podcast. Your enthusiasm is contagious! Don’t loose that.
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You gotta have fun. Blogging, podcasting, that’s the fun stuff. 😎😎😎😎
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Agreed. As is wearing sunglasses in February! 😎
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Good for you for saving your friend from getting in trouble, Brian, and I’ll listen to the podcast a little later. I look forward to it! 🙂
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Oh, he was crazy. He got me into a ton of other trouble, but I got us out of that one. Ha, ha.
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I enjoyed the episode of you flipping around the roles and being the host! You brought humor and great questions about the origin story of the podcast, as well as looking to the future 🙂
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Oh, I’ll stick to writing Dave. Safer place for me!!! 😎🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Taking over a radio station would’ve made a wonderful life story to share. But probably good call to let cooler heads prevail! 😆 Look forward to hearing your podcast episode with Wynne and Vicki!
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I could’ve been a star Ab. First the radio station and then the big time!!! Ha ha!
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Awesome, Brian. Love the backstory of your DJ wannabee as a lead in to this.
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😎😎😎😎
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Love your vibe!!!!!
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Oh thank you Belladonna. Thank you for lying to me. Made my day. Ha ha
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LOLOLOL You are a mess!!!
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